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Solus Spartan · Dec 14, 2007, 07:37 AM // 07:37

Alot of posts are regarding good illusion builds. One skill solves all your questions.

[skill]Fevered Dreams[/skill]

Just think about it

[skill]Fevered Dreams[/skill]

Now imagine all the combitions of condition spam can be done. Using necro/ranger/assassin/dervish/dwarf skills. Now, go to your skill page, and think of some awesome condition spreading combination, and use that. There is a good illusion build.

Terraban · Dec 14, 2007, 07:53 AM // 07:53

You are a peculiar little man.

draxynnic · Dec 14, 2007, 08:10 AM // 08:10

Alternatively, use Epidemic, and at the cost of a slight delay of onset time you can avoid having to spec into Illusion or use your elite slot. Since the Mesmer has so few skills that can dish out conditions, you can go an air elementalist, a BH ranger or something else that dishes out a lot of conditions to a single target and throw Epidemic in for no cost beyond a single skill slot and setting your choice of secondary.

Less flippantly, this did come up in Cthon's thread, and is in fact one of the leading contenders - there are advantages to making sure your conditions get spread now rather than later.

That said, it'd be a little redundant if the conditions are coming from a Dervish or, to a lesser extent, some flavours of Elementalist and Necromancer, since they tend to apply conditions over an area anyway.

Cebe · Dec 14, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20

I found Fevered Dreams to be good with a lot of condition spamming heroes. I set myself and heroes up "mandragor style" and it was quite fun. Not something I'd run on a regular basis though.

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Originally Posted by draxynnic

Alternatively, use Epidemic,

Fevered Dreams has a greater area of effect, though for most of PvE Epidemic is fine anyway since monsters don't think to spread out too much.

bungusmaximus · Dec 14, 2007, 08:24 AM // 08:24

Fevered Dreams-Fragility-Virulence-accumulated pain-broad head from Pyre on top = LOLZ

Solus Spartan · Dec 14, 2007, 09:46 AM // 09:46

How about this.

Me/D, when vsing destroyers (considering high armor & hex removal)

[skill]Phantom Pain[/skill][skill]Fevered Dreams[/skill][skill]Fragility[/skill][skill]Enfeeble[/skill][skill]Envenom Enchantments[/skill]Signet of Corruption, Alkar's Alchemical Acid With last slot optional.

Use phanton as a cover Hex, then use your combo to spread a vast array of conditions

or, same sort of build just requires very good timing.

[skill]Fevered Dreams[/skill]Ebon Vanguard Assassin Support[skill]Phantom Pain[/skill][skill]Fetid Ground[/skill][skill]Animate Shambling Horror[/skill]Just for the bleeding attacks, something different can be used [skill]Putrid Explosion[/skill]Signet of Infection (or res if you don't want bleeder maker minions), Withering Aura

Alot of new skills, thus links don't work for some reason.

Thoughts?

Terraban · Dec 14, 2007, 09:55 AM // 09:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

I found Fevered Dreams to be good with a lot of condition spamming heroes. I set myself and heroes up "mandragor style" and it was quite fun. Not something I'd run on a regular basis though.

I actually completed all of GW:EN with a mandragor style group, me being the Mesmer. A lot of places were really easy, like the huge raptor groups. Mass Blind and Weakness pretty much owns them. Hero hench group packing every condition in the game + Fragility + Fevered Dreams. Fun times.

glountz · Dec 16, 2007, 06:47 PM // 18:47

Take Fevered Dreams.
Take a BHA ranger (Zho fits well).
Take a blinder (An air ele fits well).
Take a warrior to aggro properly.
Add some AoE, like Volley, or Rodgort, or Cyclone Axe, or whatever.
Laugh at the mass interrupts and complete immunity to melee.

NinjaKai · Dec 17, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13

I love using this skill with my sin in AB. Good times, conditions popping up like no ones business.

[DE] · Dec 17, 2007, 11:17 PM // 23:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by NinjaKai

I love using this skill with my sin in AB. Good times, conditions popping up like no ones business.

Why would you give up your elite for that?

Honestly while Fevered Dreams can be pretty good when put into a team build it's just not worth it. There are better builds and combinations out there, and things die so fast in PvE that it just turns into a wasted elite slot.

Dodo The Extinct · Dec 18, 2007, 12:57 AM // 00:57

In PvP, it isn't completely bad, but it is hard to properly utilize.

In PvE, look below.

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There are better builds and combinations out there, and things die so fast in PvE that it just turns into a wasted elite slot.

Quoted for emphasis

Marverick · Dec 18, 2007, 01:19 AM // 01:19

It is pretty bad in PvP except for maybe HA, people will realize you're using it and react, AKA spread out.

Estic · Dec 18, 2007, 10:40 AM // 10:40

It's coming up a lot lately actually.

I think this is the 6th thread in about a month that adresses FD.

FD clears out just about anything on HM, with the proper hero setup. I actually seldomly run anything else on my mes. See this thread for a build. With some suggestions further down in the thread (and I still haven't gotten around to trying them

)

Edit: So in conclusion, no not everyone forgot about FD. And that buildlink was in answer to you remark about thinking of some awesome conditions spreading build (although it's actually a condition spamming build because the spreading is done by only two skills, FD and Epidemic). Things indeed die very fast, but on HM it's usually pretty easy to get all the conditions on your primary target right before it dies (and so has afflicted every other monster in the area).
Edit 2: It works exactly as Glountz said

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I Write Sins · Dec 28, 2007, 08:55 PM // 20:55

actually i had a hex spam/condition spike with Fevered Dreams work pretty nicely in HA... easily got just a little over 200 fame in one day running it.... just gotta have a smart mesmer caller and be good @ fake spikes ...

Tyla · Dec 28, 2007, 08:57 PM // 20:57

thread necro :/
oh yeah [skill]epedemic[/skill]

Squishy ftw · Dec 28, 2007, 09:01 PM // 21:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyla salanari

thread necro :/
oh yeah [skill]epidemic[/skill]

There you go

zling · Dec 31, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29

[skill]fevered dreams[/skill] isnt such a bad elite, the thing is that there are better options for PvE Mesmers. but hey, whatever works for you is good, and [skill]fevered dreams[/skill] is not such a bad option...
those condition heavy Mesmer+heroes builds seem good on paper, but I never tried it, I dont have EotN which makes it a bit tougher, no cracked armor, finish him, etc...
but hey, condition spamming has been common for a while now, whichever way you choose to do it is acceptable...

wu is me · Jan 10, 2008, 08:35 AM // 08:35

has any1 forgotten [skill]fevered dreams[/skill] [skill]hypochondria[/skill]+(maybe)[skill]fragility[/skill], then to finish off... [skill]epidemic[/skill]?

edit: crap how the hell do u make those icons pop up =P?
edit: Riiiiight =D

System_Crush · Jan 10, 2008, 10:24 AM // 10:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by wu is me

has any1 forgotten [skill:fevered dreams] [skill:hypochondria]?

edit: crap how the hell do u make those icons pop up =P?

If you click the

button you can look at what the other typed, that way you don't need to ask how they did it.

If something doesn't show as a [X]...[/X] code, just hit the

button to turn off the "View as output" mode.